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    Posted: Jan 18th 2010, 11:53 am
    Post subject: another reason B-pong smokes the WPT

  • "austin"
    "umdbeerpong
    The bottom line is that beer pong is supposed to be fun. Its origin as a drinking game will never be forgotten. People line up at parties to play it because it is fun. If we can portray our events as big, organized parties that grown-ups out of college can still come back to and enjoy themselves with their friends, we will be in the right direction. ....

    Can you give me the cliff notes version of this post Garrett? I can't read that much.

    Sure.
     
    - bid system's biggest flaw is over-saturation
    - can be partly fixed by other tournaments going on too with cash payouts so people who want to play pong have options. they will go to the cash tournaments over the satellites anyways if the prize values are at least equivalent
     
    - people need to start treating pong like a game and let it be fun again
    - we all love to call it a sport, and it is IMO but we all get too competitive over the prizes and winning that most of us don't even have fun anymore and scare new teams away
    - FUN is the key
     

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    Posted: Jan 18th 2010, 03:36 pm
    Post subject: another reason B-pong smokes the WPT

  • "umdbeerpong"
    "austin
    "umdbeerpong
    The bottom line is that beer pong is supposed to be fun. Its origin as a drinking game will never be forgotten. People line up at parties to play it because it is fun. If we can portray our events as big, organized parties that grown-ups out of college can still come back to and enjoy themselves with their friends, we will be in the right direction. ....

    Can you give me the cliff notes version of this post Garrett? I can't read that much.

    Sure.
     
    - bid system's biggest flaw is over-saturation
    - can be partly fixed by other tournaments going on too with cash payouts so people who want to play pong have options. they will go to the cash tournaments over the satellites anyways if the prize values are at least equivalent
     
    - people need to start treating pong like a game and let it be fun again
    - we all love to call it a sport, and it is IMO but we all get too competitive over the prizes and winning that most of us don't even have fun anymore and scare new teams away
    - FUN is the key
     

    I think you should be required to always post in bullet-point format Garrett. Keeps you from rambling Well
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    Posted: Jan 18th 2010, 06:51 pm
    Post subject: another reason B-pong smokes the WPT

  • The problem with the sit and go idea, and side tables is that the places where such tournaments are held (at least in my area of NYC) is that the venues are too small to have 7-8 tables + side tables. AND you may say start sit and gos/side stuff when the tourney gets going, yeah sure but when the tournaments themselves run about 5-6 hours while most tables are still in use its almost impossible. As well as the fact that these places run their own things at night and get us pongers out by 8-9pm. Half the time we bring in more business than the bar ever sees during the day and somewhat during the night, so i wish they would cut that shit out, and im looking at you Porky's or the Yard whatever youre calling your crap establishment nowadays. I dont need a 400lb bouncer acting like a douchebag and flipping tables and raging and kicking people out for playing a cash game.
     
    But thats another story.
     

    Im pretty sure that the oversaturation of tourneys in the tri-state area is due to travel issues for most teams and sam himself. Turnout is key and the WPT gets the turnouts that they want, otherwise i am sure you would see satellites and other tourneys outside the tri-state area.
     
    Would you want to run the risk of having 10 teams show up in an unfamiliar territory, potentially losing 100s of dollars depending on what the tourney is for (cash/trips)??
     
    As for the female population.. find me some good girls that would be willing to spend 10-20 bucks and get demolished every week.. Its like new players, they dont wanna play the best teams, they wanna be eased into competition.  I have seen like 1-2 good females play but im pretty sure they dont win.
     
    Im all for more players and teams, id love to have a 60 team tourney again but theres just no way its going to happen with the current rule in place. I have fun no matter what, win or lose but i know its not the same for everyone.
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    Posted: Jan 19th 2010, 10:43 am
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  • I didn't read all the posts on this thread, but I get the general idea what's going on. I don't really even play beer pong, but my son got me very interested in it, & it's starting to become extremely popular on the west coast (mall stores selling official bpong tables, cups, balls). I know this idea may seem difficult at first, but it has the potential to make a shitload of money for promoters, & level the playing field somewhat. Here's what I would propose:
     
    Create a 3-level ranking system, something like Pro-level, Amateur-level, & Novice-level. All rankings would apply to individual players ONLY, not teams. Obviously, the top teams will be composed of 2 Pros. Any team that enters any qualifier tournament would HAVE to play in the bracket for the highest ranked player-for example, if  someone from Smashing Time wants to play an event with his novice girlfriend as a partner, they must play in the Pro bracket.
     
    Start with the top 25 teams from this year's WSOBP V (or whatever-I know there were lots of ties), & those 50 individuals would be ranked as Pros.
     
    Allow any person to enter whichever bracket they choose,  so ANYONE who WANTS to play against Ask About Us or Gossip Girl, or  other Pro-level players has the opportunity to do so. Hell, it's their money. Many novice players would probably love a shot at the top-ranked players, just for bragging rights ("Hey, we only lost by 28 cups!").
     
    I would suggest that the prizes for each bracket in a qualifier tourney be this:
    Pro bracket winner gets the paid entry fee + hotel as the WSOBP currently does
     
    Amateur bracket winner gets entry fee only to same event
     
    Novice winner gets cash prize of say $100 or something + credit for a bracket win toward moving up to Amateur rank
     
    Any person in the Novice or Amateur rankings who wins 3 qualifier events would be forced to move up to the next ranking, regardless of their partners. So if someone is on a team that wins 3 Amateur brackets at 3 different sanctioned qualifiers, they would be forced to play in the pro brackets any any sanctioned events after that. Same goes for Novices moving up to Amateur.
     
    I realize that this would create additional work for event organizers, but it would be easy enough to simply enter a player's ranking into the database, & move the winners accordingly. Eventually you'll have a large pool of Pro players like the pro golf tour. Having 3 brackets at each event shouldn't be that much more difficult, & it would certainly draw in a much larger number of players if they knew they wouldn't have to beat the world's best players to win anything.
     
    One last thing. I think the prize money should NOT be so top-heavy. Having money to 10th place or 15th place in larger tourneys will also lure in more people if they think they have a shot at winning their entry fee back.
     
    Just some ideas to think about to equal out the competition & attract as many players as possible.
     
    One last thing. All you kids whining about what the promoters are doing should be thankful you have those individuals working as hard as they do to promote events that you can play at. If you don't like how they do it, either suggest something positive or run your own event.
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    Posted: Jan 19th 2010, 10:56 am
    Post subject: another reason B-pong smokes the WPT

  • "HellaBinDrinkin"
    I didn't read all the posts on this thread, but I get the general idea what's going on. I don't really even play beer pong, but my son got me very interested in it, & it's starting to become extremely popular on the west coast (mall stores selling official bpong tables, cups, balls). I know this idea may seem difficult at first, but it has the potential to make a shitload of money for promoters, & level the playing field somewhat. Here's what I would propose:
     
    Create a 3-level ranking system, something like Pro-level, Amateur-level, & Novice-level. All rankings would apply to individual players ONLY, not teams. Obviously, the top teams will be composed of 2 Pros. Any team that enters any qualifier tournament would HAVE to play in the bracket for the highest ranked player-for example, if  someone from Smashing Time wants to play an event with his novice girlfriend as a partner, they must play in the Pro bracket.
     
    Start with the top 25 teams from this year's WSOBP V (or whatever-I know there were lots of ties), & those 50 individuals would be ranked as Pros.
     
    Allow any person to enter whichever bracket they choose,  so ANYONE who WANTS to play against Ask About Us or Gossip Girl, or  other Pro-level players has the opportunity to do so. Hell, it's their money. Many novice players would probably love a shot at the top-ranked players, just for bragging rights ("Hey, we only lost by 28 cups!").
     
    I would suggest that the prizes for each bracket in a qualifier tourney be this:
    Pro bracket winner gets the paid entry fee + hotel as the WSOBP currently does
     
    Amateur bracket winner gets entry fee only to same event
     
    Novice winner gets cash prize of say $100 or something + credit for a bracket win toward moving up to Amateur rank
     
    Any person in the Novice or Amateur rankings who wins 3 qualifier events would be forced to move up to the next ranking, regardless of their partners. So if someone is on a team that wins 3 Amateur brackets at 3 different sanctioned qualifiers, they would be forced to play in the pro brackets any any sanctioned events after that. Same goes for Novices moving up to Amateur.
     
    I realize that this would create additional work for event organizers, but it would be easy enough to simply enter a player's ranking into the database, & move the winners accordingly. Eventually you'll have a large pool of Pro players like the pro golf tour. Having 3 brackets at each event shouldn't be that much more difficult, & it would certainly draw in a much larger number of players if they knew they wouldn't have to beat the world's best players to win anything.
     
    One last thing. I think the prize money should NOT be so top-heavy. Having money to 10th place or 15th place in larger tourneys will also lure in more people if they think they have a shot at winning their entry fee back.
     
    Just some ideas to think about to equal out the competition & attract as many players as possible.
     
    One last thing. All you kids whining about what the promoters are doing should be thankful you have those individuals working as hard as they do to promote events that you can play at. If you don't like how they do it, either suggest something positive or run your own event.

    Hey, Old Man River, zip it or I'll break your hip. lol
     
    seriously tho, i like this idea. might be awhile before somebody actually does this, but i think a few people already mentioned about working towards this goal.
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    Posted: Jan 19th 2010, 10:59 am
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  • After re-reading my post, I realized that there may be a problem having so few Pro players to start with, but again, ANYONE could enter the Pro bracket to have a shot at the big prize, so I think there would be enough people. Also, if promoters schedule the matches properly, they could let Novice & Amateur players pay 2 entry fees & play in 2 brackets at the same tournament. They could play their own bracket as well as the Pro bracket to try for the big money. Promoters could wind up effectively increasing their cash flow without necessarily having more people show up to events, but I feel you'll attract quite a few more players using the ranking system.
     
    Edit:  ^Old Man River   HAW
    cool. I've been called worse!

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    Posted: Jan 19th 2010, 11:58 am
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  • Good shit papa hersh!
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