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Scally Joined: 12.12.2008 Age: 27 Total Games: 3 W/L %: 33.33 Avg CD: -1.67 Full Stats	Posted: Mar 13th 2010, 04:11 am Post subject: LEANing I dont have anything to say on the topic. I just felt letf out being the only person not to comment on this. Leaning is awesome. Me and my partner strech armstrong are so good at it. He never misses...
Ecastro715 Joined: 11.18.2008 Age: 25 Total Games: 37 W/L %: 75.68 Avg CD: 1.27 Full Stats	Posted: Mar 13th 2010, 04:12 am Post subject: LEANing "Scally" I dont have anything to say on the topic. I just felt letf out being the only person not to comment on this. Leaning is awesome. Me and my partner strech armstrong are so good at it. He never misses... is his screen name six_ten?
mikevit Joined: 04.30.2008 Age: 26 Total Games: 147 W/L %: 74.83 Avg CD: 2.01 Full Stats	Posted: Mar 13th 2010, 02:13 pm Post subject: LEANing "Hersh13" Talking in circles about rules isnt going to do it. This game is a great time. Talk about that instead. Reality is we all know these rules are boring and monotonous. House rules are 10 times more fun. These rules however, are NECESSARY for tournament play, as has been said like a million times on here. Therefore, we all continue to lean, continue to play these rules, and continue to compete in these tournaments. If it weren't for the allure of money for winning at beer pong, none of us would have ever touched these rules. For tournament and money play, I love these rules including the leaning, but casual play, I'm on their side. Elbows back, and watch the explosions fly! Hersh is 100% right here. I don't think anyone will say the current bpong rules are more "fun" to play. The bpong rules simply give each team as close to an equal chance to win as possible which is why it works for tournaments and cash games. The bpong rules are best for putting teas or players on a level playing field and finding the superior team or player. House rules, on the other hand, are great for parties. Most of the house rules were developed for the 4 reasons listed below with examples of each rule type: 1. To make your opponent drink more and drink faster. (ex. drink before you shoot, money cups, finishing remaining cups on the table after a loss) 2. To move games along during parties. (ex rollbacks, NBA jam, explosions, death cup, bouncing) 3. To get girls involved in the game somehow (ex bitches blow & strip beer pong) which hopefully leads to the next rule 4. To get laid (ex "no means yes") In conclusion, whether you are playing by house rules to impress some nubile sorority slut that will definitely fuck you because she is impressed with your skills (drunk), or you are playing bpong rules to make a quick $20 to by meth to pay a desperate hooker, each rule set serves its purpose. Last edited on Mar 13th 2010, 02:14 pm
fresh302 Joined: 05.03.2008 Age: 27 Total Games: 136 W/L %: 61.76 Avg CD: 1.14 Full Stats	Posted: Mar 13th 2010, 03:27 pm Post subject: LEANing I don't think changing rules/equipment is the way to gain larger turnouts to tournaments. If you wanna get more players to tournaments, there needs to be more promoting! There is still a ton of people all across the country that have no idea about the WSOBP. This year has been better then past years with g4, leno, maxim, and other positive coverage... But it needs to keep up all year so the word can spread. Also, there needs to be more local beer pong tournaments/leagues....average players wanting to get their feet wet and try it out aren't gonna travel an hr+ for tournaments. If more local beer pong promoters popped up and started hosting weekly tournaments or started a league, it would get casual players more involved and eventual the'll be into it and start traveling hours to play in satelites and big money tourneys. WSOBP V had about 460 teams, that's about 920 players.....all who prolly started off playing house rules, all who still made the trip out to play with these rules. Getting more people to adapt our rules and stop bitching could be as simple as just keep doing what were doing, spread the word more, and eventually elbow rule will be a small footnote in the beer pong history book.
phpistasty Joined: 03.21.2010 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: Mar 29th 2010, 07:39 pm Post subject: LEANing if you eliminate leaning then you'll just have tons and tons of challenges. leaning makes sense with the size of the table. we just have to get used to it (we being short people and midgets )
smeyerusaf Joined: 04.19.2010 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: Apr 19th 2010, 01:30 am Post subject: LEANing If this suggestion has already been made then i apologize, but i too am not a fan of the leaning. I understand the necessity for it based on what i've read. The number of games being played simultaneously makes refereeing an impossibility and lord knows we can never rely on self or opponent judging. I would like to suggest a set distance marked by a line on the ground. Kind of like Darts. You can lean as far as you want, you just have to start leaning from a spot further back then right next to the table. The average distance from the armpit to the elbow is a quarter of a mans height. So getting a fair distance for everyone may be a challenge, but that has to be a more fair compromise then letting noobs lean across the table. So set a tape line 12 to 18 inches (18 inches is the distance from armpit to elbow for someone 6 foot tall). This will ensure no unfair leaning across the table and will not need excess refereeing. That is unless you foresee people trying to slide there toe a little past the line, or hoping that the other team can't see their feet and maybe sliding a little further forward. If you do see that as becoming a problem then feel free to tell me that i'm a reTARD.
dub Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 81 Total Games: 125 W/L %: 65.6 Avg CD: 1.09 Full Stats	Posted: Apr 19th 2010, 02:05 am Post subject: LEANing "smeyerusaf" If this suggestion has already been made then i apologize, but i too am not a fan of the leaning. I understand the necessity for it based on what i've read. The number of games being played simultaneously makes refereeing an impossibility and lord knows we can never rely on self or opponent judging. I would like to suggest a set distance marked by a line on the ground. Kind of like Darts. You can lean as far as you want, you just have to start leaning from a spot further back then right next to the table. The average distance from the armpit to the elbow is a quarter of a mans height. So getting a fair distance for everyone may be a challenge, but that has to be a more fair compromise then letting noobs lean across the table. So set a tape line 12 to 18 inches (18 inches is the distance from armpit to elbow for someone 6 foot tall). This will ensure no unfair leaning across the table and will not need excess refereeing. That is unless you foresee people trying to slide there toe a little past the line, or hoping that the other team can't see their feet and maybe sliding a little further forward. If you do see that as becoming a problem then feel free to tell me that i'm a reTARD. There is a line. It's called the edge of the table. Your theory solves nothing, by the way. Tables move. Tape moves. And saying in one breath that there's no way to govern people's elbows crossing the plane of the table, but to then say tape will solve the problem is absurd. It's the same exact thing, if not worse.
jonespongpilot Joined: 12.05.2008 Age: 28 Total Games: 34 W/L %: 47.06 Avg CD: -0.56 Full Stats	Posted: Apr 19th 2010, 11:32 am Post subject: LEANing "smeyerusaf" If this suggestion has already been made then i apologize, but i too am not a fan of the leaning. I understand the necessity for it based on what i've read. The number of games being played simultaneously makes refereeing an impossibility and lord knows we can never rely on self or opponent judging. I would like to suggest a set distance marked by a line on the ground. Kind of like Darts. You can lean as far as you want, you just have to start leaning from a spot further back then right next to the table. The average distance from the armpit to the elbow is a quarter of a mans height. So getting a fair distance for everyone may be a challenge, but that has to be a more fair compromise then letting noobs lean across the table. So set a tape line 12 to 18 inches (18 inches is the distance from armpit to elbow for someone 6 foot tall). This will ensure no unfair leaning across the table and will not need excess refereeing. That is unless you foresee people trying to slide there toe a little past the line, or hoping that the other team can't see their feet and maybe sliding a little further forward. If you do see that as becoming a problem then feel free to tell me that i'm a reTARD. A bar in NY used to do tape line, it really didn't work. For one, the tape would get messed up and shift from beer and getting stepped on. People would often call you crossed the line and start a huge argument, when you really couldn't tell. I do agree your reasoning that it would change outsiders perception of the sport like pro darts. I still think its a good idea to make an extension bar off the table, it would be a good paradigm shift for pong.
mikevit Joined: 04.30.2008 Age: 26 Total Games: 147 W/L %: 74.83 Avg CD: 2.01 Full Stats	Posted: Apr 19th 2010, 07:34 pm Post subject: LEANing "jonespongpilot" "sme If this suggestion has already been made then i apologize, but i too am not a fan of the leaning. I understand the necessity for it based on what i've read. The number of games being played simultaneously makes refereeing an impossibility and lord knows we can never rely on self or opponent judging. I would like to suggest a set distance marked by a line on the ground. Kind of like Darts. You can lean as far as you want, you just have to start leaning from a spot further back then right next to the table. The average distance from the armpit to the elbow is a quarter of a mans height. So getting a fair distance for everyone may be a challenge, but that has to be a more fair compromise then letting noobs lean across the table. So set a tape line 12 to 18 inches (18 inches is the distance from armpit to elbow for someone 6 foot tall). This will ensure no unfair leaning across the table and will not need excess refereeing. That is unless you foresee people trying to slide there toe a little past the line, or hoping that the other team can't see their feet and maybe sliding a little further forward. If you do see that as becoming a problem then feel free to tell me that i'm a reTARD. A bar in NY used to do tape line, it really didn't work. For one, the tape would get messed up and shift from beer and getting stepped on. People would often call you crossed the line and start a huge argument, when you really couldn't tell. I do agree your reasoning that it would change outsiders perception of the sport like pro darts. I still think its a good idea to make an extension bar off the table, it would be a good paradigm shift for pong. World Pong Tour used to do a tape line when they used the 7.5ft tables and those tournaments ran fairly smoothly. It honestly isn't that bad of a solution. Since the table really should never be moved during the game, as long as both teams check the distance before the game starts it should be fine. It just takes a little effort on the part of the tournament organizer to "maintain" the tape line throughout the tournament.
Sultan Joined: 12.08.2009 Age: 27 Total Games: 29 W/L %: 62.07 Avg CD: 0.38 Full Stats	Posted: Apr 20th 2010, 09:47 am Post subject: LEANing It's about consistency, weather your 6 feet from the cups or leaning in to 4 feet from the cups, it is still just as difficult to throw the same throw consistently for a tournament ..... I know i wouldn't beat the best (at the moment, slight giggle) if they were playing elbow rule and i was leaning because they are more consistent....