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wianek Joined: 08.20.2008 Age: 27 Total Games: 47 W/L %: 80.85 Avg CD: 2.30 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 09:49 am Post subject: Rules for Single's games "mikevit" In addition to that, it still gives a player that is behind the opportunity to comeback moreso than just shooting one ball per turn. I don't get why everyone is so concerned about the ability to make a comeback with 1 ball... I think people are forgetting it's also a lot harder to fall behind by a large amount of cups with 1 ball. Also, you still get to shoot a rebuttal, so you can easily make up 4-5 cups in 1 turn. Last edited on Nov 20th 2009, 09:49 am
grac112 Joined: 07.17.2008 Age: 34 Total Games: 189 W/L %: 65.61 Avg CD: 1.14 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 01:17 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games The way I have explained singles to newer people who come out and love the game but just arent getting it totatlly, is that you are able to adjust your shot and learn what you did differently. if you take away the 2 balls the average joes arent ever going to be able to step up and catch up unless. Honestly as much as I hate to admit it but we tell our better players to take it easy on new guys to make them feel good for a while. gotta keep those average players around!
CC91 Joined: 09.06.2007 Age: 26 Total Games: 56 W/L %: 67.86 Avg CD: 1.45 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 01:30 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games But i think skinny is looking for rules for an event at the WS V....shoodnt be too many avg joes, and honestly i think its more of a massacre when u keep hitting 3 balls a turn and the avg guys make 1 cup every time....the 1 for 1 looks more fair, and doesnt allow for the re-adjustment if u missed.
grac112 Joined: 07.17.2008 Age: 34 Total Games: 189 W/L %: 65.61 Avg CD: 1.14 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 01:54 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games and thats why we take it easy on the avg joes no 3 cupers...lol.. but yeah for the WS V I guess I could understand that! I still say you should get 1 roll back then!
prusch Joined: 08.22.2006 Age: 30 Total Games: 145 W/L %: 77.24 Avg CD: 1.70 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 02:08 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games "jomalley333" getting an extra ball for making one shot is WEAK. Playing one ball with one rollback isn't ideal, but when playing that way, I always see it as playing with 2 balls, but you have to earn your second shot by making your first. In a doubles game where two really good players are playing with weaker partners, any time the weaker partner hits, it's the responsibility of the better player to hit, get the rollback, and hit the third. Playing singles with one ball/one rollback at least emulates that aspect of the doubles game. As for people concerned with games moving too slow - I think the opposite is the problem with playing 2 balls. Games should not be over in less than 2 minutes.
wianek Joined: 08.20.2008 Age: 27 Total Games: 47 W/L %: 80.85 Avg CD: 2.30 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 02:32 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games "prusch" "jomalley333 getting an extra ball for making one shot is WEAK. Playing one ball with one rollback isn't ideal, but when playing that way, I always see it as playing with 2 balls, but you have to earn your second shot by making your first. In a doubles game where two really good players are playing with weaker partners, any time the weaker partner hits, it's the responsibility of the better player to hit, get the rollback, and hit the third. Playing singles with one ball/one rollback at least emulates that aspect of the doubles game. As for people concerned with games moving too slow - I think the opposite is the problem with playing 2 balls. Games should not be over in less than 2 minutes. I still don't really get the point of the rollback - it's like getting rewarded for making 1 cup. Also, it will lead to more blowouts whenever you have a good player against an average player leading to the average players getting discouraged. I think people are pushing for the 2 balls + rollback or the 1 ball + rollback because they are just so used to doubles rules. I used to use standard WS rules in singles as well, but then I started to feel like I was getting in too much of a groove with the extra balls every turn. For the most part (when you look at average players) a single player usually doesn't get to shoot 2 balls in one turn and even when they do it's only one player on the team.
wianek Joined: 08.20.2008 Age: 27 Total Games: 47 W/L %: 80.85 Avg CD: 2.30 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 02:33 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games "wianek" "prusch" "jomalley333 getting an extra ball for making one shot is WEAK. Playing one ball with one rollback isn't ideal, but when playing that way, I always see it as playing with 2 balls, but you have to earn your second shot by making your first. In a doubles game where two really good players are playing with weaker partners, any time the weaker partner hits, it's the responsibility of the better player to hit, get the rollback, and hit the third. Playing singles with one ball/one rollback at least emulates that aspect of the doubles game. As for people concerned with games moving too slow - I think the opposite is the problem with playing 2 balls. Games should not be over in less than 2 minutes. I still don't really get the point of the rollback - it's like getting rewarded for making 1 cup. Also, it will lead to more blowouts whenever you have a good player against an average player leading to the average players getting discouraged. The 1 shot + 1 ball rollback is probably the worst solution when it comes to avoiding blowouts. I think people are pushing for the 2 balls + rollback or the 1 ball + rollback because they are just so used to doubles rules. I used to use standard WS rules in singles as well, but then I started to feel like I was getting in too much of a groove with the extra balls every turn. For the most part (when you look at average players) a single player usually doesn't get to shoot 2 balls in one turn and even when they do it's only one player on the team.
bustany2 Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 28 Total Games: 93 W/L %: 67.74 Avg CD: 1.55 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 02:47 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games "wianek" "wianek" "prusch" "jomalley333 getting an extra ball for making one shot is WEAK. Playing one ball with one rollback isn't ideal, but when playing that way, I always see it as playing with 2 balls, but you have to earn your second shot by making your first. In a doubles game where two really good players are playing with weaker partners, any time the weaker partner hits, it's the responsibility of the better player to hit, get the rollback, and hit the third. Playing singles with one ball/one rollback at least emulates that aspect of the doubles game. As for people concerned with games moving too slow - I think the opposite is the problem with playing 2 balls. Games should not be over in less than 2 minutes. I still don't really get the point of the rollback - it's like getting rewarded for making 1 cup. Also, it will lead to more blowouts whenever you have a good player against an average player leading to the average players getting discouraged. The 1 shot + 1 ball rollback is probably the worst solution when it comes to avoiding blowouts. I think people are pushing for the 2 balls + rollback or the 1 ball + rollback because they are just so used to doubles rules. I used to use standard WS rules in singles as well, but then I started to feel like I was getting in too much of a groove with the extra balls every turn. For the most part (when you look at average players) a single player usually doesn't get to shoot 2 balls in one turn and even when they do it's only one player on the team. I personally feel that roll backs should not be part of the game. While some may argue that it gives the average teams a chance to come back, the good teams are taking and hitting more rollback shots, leading to more blow out type games. I think WSOBP I was played the right way, each team had an even amount of shots, leading to more balanced games.
billy Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 30 Total Games: 1 W/L %: 100 Avg CD: 1.00 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 02:50 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games "wianek" I still don't really get the point of the rollback - it's like getting rewarded for making 1 cup. I'm not arguing for anything here, but in that case, why don't we go with two balls (i.e., two shots). The second one doesn't count, but if you make the second one (which is only given if you make the first), you get a third shot. In other words, 1 hit = 1 cup + another shot; 2 hits = 1 cup total + a third shot; 3 hits = 2 cups. (I really don't know where I stand on this issue yet; I haven't had much time to give it much thought.)
jhughes44 Joined: 11.10.2006 Age: 29 Total Games: 116 W/L %: 71.55 Avg CD: 1.20 Full Stats	Posted: Nov 20th 2009, 02:55 pm Post subject: Rules for Single's games "ppa" But i think skinny is looking for rules for an event at the WS V....shoodnt be too many avg joes... I'm not sure if you've been to the world series yet, but the majority of the players that participate are average Joe's...