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azpong Joined: 10.23.2007 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: May 17th 2008, 10:09 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? I thought I saw some debate over balls back and the rebudle. Did I see somewhere that at WSOBP IV its going to be changed to, if you make both balls, you get one ball back, and if you make that one, you get one more and that's it? Just curious when will the official rules for IV will be posted and will there be any changes? Thanks...
billy Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 30 Total Games: 1 W/L %: 100 Avg CD: 1.00 Full Stats	Posted: May 17th 2008, 02:47 pm Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? Perhaps somebody has brought up this idea, but it is not in line with our mindset, however. As such, we have not considered it (yet anyway). The whole idea of this limited one ball rollback is to prevent a team on a hot streak to demolish another team without the other team getting a chance to shoot much. If the team is on a hot streak, they are going to win anyway, but with only one ball rollbacks, it will take more turns, which in turn, allows the weaker team to at least feel as if they had a chance to play the game (by throwing missed shots). As for the official rules, WSOBP III rules are pretty much them. We do plan to make some clarifying revisions and such, but we do not currently plan to make any changes that really effect the main rules of the game. If there are any desired changes, however, now is the time to discuss and debate them.
justpongit Joined: 04.18.2007 Age: 28 Total Games: 46 W/L %: 84.78 Avg CD: 2.28 Full Stats	Posted: May 17th 2008, 08:44 pm Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? this will be my first time going but i would like a rule banning man thongs..lol p.s - sorry crocodile guy...take that shit somewhere else
skinny Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 31 Total Games: 1 W/L %: 100 Avg CD: 1.00 Full Stats	Posted: May 17th 2008, 10:59 pm Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? >this will be my first time going but i would like a rule banning man thongs..lol Sorry Steph, but Billy has made it very clear that he greatly supports man thongs. From what I've heard, he used to sport them quite frequently at swim meets... On a slightly more serious topic, I'm thinking that we should implement shooting lines behind the tables in the World Series rules. Now, I know I've opened up a huge can of worms here. Let me start off by saying that I have never played with shooting lines, and frankly think that the general idea is unnecessary and unnatural....BUT.... I think it would help create a compromise for those people that are absolutely convinced that a shooting line would help reduce leaning. Now, Billy has stated many times on here that the shooting line would in fact increase leaning, and I agree with his logic, but the simple fact is, when a guy who's never been to the WSOBP watches a video on youtube and says "that's pussy shit cause his elbow's over the table", we are turning that person away from the event. I am absolutely not saying that that person is right, rational, or even not a douchebag, I'm just saying that the preconception that a lot of people have is at odds with what the WSOBP is trying to accomplish, namely, creating an organized global beer pong community. I frankly think that the shooting line would be pretty easy to enforce (much easier than an elbow rule), and I think that most people would just naturally follow it. It would also reduce controversies that ensue when people lean into cups, take their back foot off of the floor (which could now be allowed), and other similar bullshit. what do you guys think?
best.of.buffalo Joined: 03.17.2007 Age: 27 Total Games: 24 W/L %: 29.17 Avg CD: -1.79 Full Stats	Posted: May 18th 2008, 03:22 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? I'm writing this post from the DJ booth at The Big Easy NYC. It's our second to last tournament of the World Pong Tour 'Spring '08 Tour' and, needless to say, it's taking forever. Sidenote: The Big easy has free wireless internet... and so here we are. Anyway, to get to the line issue: We (the World Pong Tour) have hosted all of our tournaments with a 'Foul Line'. The way we look at it is that it's impossible to regulate an elbow rule, and it stretches the shooting distance closer to that of an actual ping pong table (where we can only assume this whole sport started). Do people like it? I think so. When we first started people were a little wary simply because many of them had been practicing according to WSOBP's lean rule (or lack thereof). But, after a while, people have become accustomed to it... You know where to put your foot for every shot. I think another good thing about the 'line rule' is that WSOBP's 'both feet on the ground' rule cuts into some people shooting styles. If you just have a line that people need to shoot behind, then you can pick one foot up, lean, whatever, as long as you're behind the line. I think some of the Long Island players would be the best judges of what's a better system. They have trained for and played in the WSOBP and have played in a lot of our tournaments. IWC would also be another team that could shed some light on the issue. As far as our tournaments, the line is here to stay. Let's see what the rest of the Bpong community thinks. -Peter http://www.worldpongtour.com
prusch Joined: 08.22.2006 Age: 30 Total Games: 145 W/L %: 77.24 Avg CD: 1.70 Full Stats	Posted: May 18th 2008, 06:20 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? As much as I like shooting while up against the table, I agree with Skinny's sentiment about drawing more people. They all might be misinformed douchebags, but there seems to be a large crowd of them out there. A quick question for the shooting line connoisseurs... I know that on a smooth surface, tables get bumped, and can easily move. How can it be ensured that a table doesn't move between lines?
ballplayer0711 Joined: 08.27.2006 Age: 26 Total Games: 32 W/L %: 59.38 Avg CD: 0.47 Full Stats	Posted: May 18th 2008, 06:32 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? The only problem I see is, when comparing the shooting lines to the WSOBP and the WPT, the WPT uses tables that are 6 inches shorter than the WSOBP. Just a thought. Not a huge difference, but one that should be noted.
1farley5 Joined: 10.01.2007 Age: 28 Total Games: 68 W/L %: 72.06 Avg CD: 1.32 Full Stats	Posted: May 18th 2008, 06:59 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? i dunno how i feel about it ... i dont lean or anthing but being close to the table is where it feels right for my shot like whne i back up from the table my shot always feels funny..... i mean whatever the rules are i will obviously play but i have no prblem with the current ones
juzam139 Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 29 Total Games: 92 W/L %: 67.39 Avg CD: 1.25 Full Stats	Posted: May 18th 2008, 11:57 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? I for one do not like the line at all. At the World Pong Tour events, the lines always get scrunched up and kicked away and then there are no more lines while mine is in tact. I know what you're thinking, why not just tell the guys running it that the tape is gone and they'll put more down. Usually my opponent is like no there's still a line which you can barely see and like Prusch said, the tables do get moved all around so you could be closer with no line. (NB: I've been to the two big ones at Porky's so maybe it's just there cuz of all the teams and madness). Anyhow, I agree with Farley and my shot does feel funny not having the table right there. I mean I need something there otherwise if I lean forward I am off balance and my shot is not as good as it could be. If I were allowed to bring like a chair to put in front of the line, then I'd be ok with the line because then I'd still have the comfort level of my shot, it'd just be a little further back which I cna handle plus you can easily see if someone is behind a chair than a line on the ground so maybe institute a chair rule? As far as leaning into the cups, that is a bad thing for the person doing it because they risk knocking that cup over which will count. Even if you try and make the argument that someone bumps the table when they shoot...so what? This is detrimental to their shot because the table is moving while they're shooting which makes it harder to hit cups and they also risk knocking cups over and losing? I really don't see the need to change it now and put a line in. In all honesty, the people who play elbow rule that I continue to run into are pretty much set in their ways and won't change unless they are ready for the next level and the World Series Rules are it. Having a line will not make these people any happier as they'd complain that they are not shooting as close as they could and it is throwing them off. If anything, I wouldn't mind the elbow rule if it could actually be enforced. The elbow rule levels the playing field in theory so even if you're 7ft 2 or 5ft 5, you're all shooting from the same spot. Of course, this elbow rule idea is never any good when money is involved and always leads to fights. It's only good for private parties and just between friends. But the people who aren't playing in the World Series who say "Oh they're pussies for leaning, I'm not gonna play cuz it'd be too easy" are purists of the game. They will not change and won't change unless they want to get serious about it and start playing by the rules here and put their money where their mouths are. Usually if I hear the above, I tell people to try leaning and they fuck up big time cuz they're not used to it. Sure it makes things easier, but it still takes skill to hit cups and takes the arguments out of the game (for the most part). So the bottom line is, I'm against the line and hope things stay the way it is (props to you if read my entire post, it's pretty long).
mikejohnson38 Joined: 11.04.2006 Age: 28 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: May 19th 2008, 04:40 am Post subject: Rules changes for WSOBP IV? Those people who are complaining about the elbow rule, the shooting line, the leaning, any of that stuff... Even if you accommodate them and meet all their 'requirements' for stuff, they're just going to find something ELSE to complain about. You know it, I know it, we all know that's their M O... I don't see it being ANY easier to enforce a shooting line/foul line rule at the WSOBP. I mean, is the other team supposed to have one of their players go to the other side, or stand off to the side of their own table and look to make SURE that their opponents feet are in fact behind the line, not on top of it, or in front of it? Come on... I still think the only solution for this nonsense would to be getting longer tables, that's the only fair and absolutely enforceable way to solve the problem that some people seem to have with the leaning...