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skinny Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 31 Total Games: 6 W/L %: 50 Avg CD: 0.83 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 04:34 am Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? All right guys, let's throw down some motha fuckin democracy. What do you guys think? Should we have shooting lines at the world series of beer pong?
j0schm03 Joined: 10.05.2007 Age: 26 Total Games: 62 W/L %: 77.42 Avg CD: 1.77 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 06:22 am Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? sorry had to vote no haha. Like was stated before by Dwissburn, it's not the rules keeping people from coming to vegas. It's the money issues cause were all mostly broke ass college kids. We have a standard set and the past 3 years have gone smoothly. No sense in changing the rules so we don't get laughed at on collegehumor. That's basically what it boils down to. Anyone ever look at the comments on other videos? It's always some stupid kids talking shit. That wasn't just to the video of the wsobp. Let the kids be and lets play some pong the way we've been playing it. Here's how I see it. The main argument against leaning is this. "it's not fair for us shorter guys. Taller guys can reach farther across the table." You move us back 6 inches and we still have the same "advantage" over the shorter guys, instead you just made us shoot a farther distance. And you've done the same for the shorter guys. You now have the same problem again...
ihitcups Joined: 03.18.2008 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 06:47 am Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? everyone stop bitching, if you dont like the lean rule dont fucking come. And it we set a line, the same amount of people are going to complain about that, so stop bringing this shit up
defo Joined: 08.30.2006 Age: 30 Total Games: 105 W/L %: 71.43 Avg CD: 1.50 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 06:51 am Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? A shooting line behind an 8ft table would be the most retarded thing that ever happened to pong...this post is gunna annoy the shit outta me forever now lol cause all those fags who have never played in theWS will start posting like they did right after the series sayin they can beat us all cause we lean lol...but these idiots dont realize you can also lean when theres a line..if you dont stand straight up an down without a line, you dont stand straight up an down with a line..if anything, you can lean less with a table in front of you blocking you..i dont know how these people dont get it...if im 6'4" and have longer arms then you how am i gunna change the fact that i am naturally closer to the cups? lol grow..maybe u shudda ate ur vitamins when you were younger and youd be tall too..oh shit wait..they arent done growing yet..these are all people who are too young to enter the world series...play in it before u talk about leaning...SEACREST OUT!!
solidgold Joined: 08.16.2007 Age: 27 Total Games: 38 W/L %: 65.79 Avg CD: 1.16 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 07:02 am Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? I voted no. I don't care too much other way. However, I am comfortable shooting with a leg against the table because that is what I am used to. If the rule is changed now I could practice and probably feel comfortable a foot back or whatever. The one thing that I will say about this debate.. is that I don't think it will solve anything. If your foot can't cross the line but your body can; that means people can in fact lean farther because they wont have a table in their thighs holding them back. They may be farther away from the cups but I feel the haters are more concerned about elbows not distance. The haters will hate about the elbow over the line just as much as they hate on elbows over the table.
gretz68 Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 35 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 04:27 pm Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? voted no for this reason and this reason only: when i was at wsobp2, i made fun of all the leaners and shot arm's length away. then we came in 52nd. when i got home, i retaught myself how to shoot with the lean, and it took me like 2 weeks to a month to get it down. even now, i still suck unless im hammered, but i cant shoot from far back anymore either. im basically a crippled pong player, however, i refuse to go back to the no-lean now. we do it on occasion and we just have elbow disputes constantly during those games anyway (and keep in mind, there's not even money involved). years ago, i would have never have thought id hear me say this, but STICK WITH THE LEAN.
austin Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 32 Total Games: 122 W/L %: 77.87 Avg CD: 1.85 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 04:49 pm Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? defo A shooting line behind an 8ft table would be the most retarded thing that ever happened to pong... I agree
dwissbrun2 Joined: 11.15.2006 Age: 33 Total Games: 113 W/L %: 51.33 Avg CD: -0.11 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 04:55 pm Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? austin defo A shooting line behind an 8ft table would be the most retarded thing that ever happened to pong... I agree me too i once thought that making people keep both feet on the ground would be a reasonable solution... but you know what? fuck it, that's only a few inches extra lean anyway. i'm 5ft 9in tall, and have no problem with people leaning... i'll either beat you, or i won't. let's move to a new topic.
best.of.buffalo Joined: 03.17.2007 Age: 27 Total Games: 24 W/L %: 29.17 Avg CD: -1.79 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 08:11 pm Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? I think we can argue this back and forth forever because it's a matter of personal preference. I don't think the discussion should be about lean so much as is should be about what the 'standard' shot distance should be. At our (WPT) events we use the 7.5' tables but we recognize that 7.5' is a short shot distance so we increase it with a 'foul line'. That doesn't necessarily mean that our final shot distance (8.5') is perfect or 'right'. What is, or should be, the 'standard' shot distance? Ping Pong table = 9 feet. People on these forums have been quick to shoot down a shot distance increase because they have been playing with the current rules for so long. It's difficult to introduce a new shot length when people are so accustomed to playing the way that they have. Hell, weren't MDBeerpong rules changed to conform to the WSOBP? Clearly there's a huge fan base here and and anyone that's been practicing with the 8' shot for a couple years is not going to want to change things around. My personal opinion is that the shot length should be 8.5' or 9'. When we first started out we had a 9.5' shot and that was a little too long, 7.5' is a little to short, and I feel like 8.5' or 9' is perfect. But, once again, this is personal opinion and preference. One other point I'd like to bring up is that the WPT is sending a ton of teams to the WSOBP4 this year - Defo not included, haha. All of these teams won in tournaments where there was a 'foul line' and the shot distance was more than 8'. I'm pretty sure that they would not object to having a 'foul line' being that they're going to the WSOBP because they won in a tournament with a foul line. Unfortunately, I don't know how many of those people are active on these forums, so their voices aren't heard. The people who are speaking up are those who have been playing with WSOBP rules for years (even if they've been to a WPT event), and they seem pretty adamant about not changing things around. So just to summarize the main points: * Shot distance is a matter of PERSONAL PREFERENCE. * A Ping pong table (where this sport started) is 9'. * Consider the issue from a shot distance perspective not a 'leaning' perspective. I'm also a proponent of adding a foul line because then the WPT events and the WSOBP will be even more similar in rules and we'll be moving more towards a universal standard, which I think is good for this sport. I think that anyone who has been to the WSOBP is going to come back regardless of if the shot distance is 8', 8.5' or 9'; BUT, increasing the shot distance and making it so that people can't lean across the table COULD potentially attract a few more teams (which is really the goal here). I'm not saying we should play to internet gangsters bitching about the lean, but maybe their opinions reflect those of a lot of people who aren't involved in the tight knit Bpong community. So, my vote is for a 6" or 12" increase. -Peter http://www.worldpongtour.com
dwissbrun2 Joined: 11.15.2006 Age: 33 Total Games: 113 W/L %: 51.33 Avg CD: -0.11 Full Stats	Posted: May 21st 2008, 08:31 pm Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP? best.of.buffalo I'm also a proponent of adding a foul line because then the WPT events and the WSOBP will be even more similar in rules and we'll be moving more towards a universal standard, which I think is good for this sport. peter - if you're so interested in this, then why don't you do the easiest thing possible (from your position) and switch all your tables to bpong tables. i'm pretty sure the world series was around before the wpt - so really, you were the one that made it dissimilar. best.of.buffalo BUT, increasing the shot distance and making it so that people can't lean across the table COULD potentially attract a few more teams So, my vote is for a 6" or 12" increase. are we really debating about putting a 3 inch or 6 inch increase to each side of the table??? that is the most ridiculous shit i've ever heard. no wait... suggesting that this small increase will stop people from "leaning across the table"!!! it won't stop them, they'll just be 3 inches back from the place they leaned to before. big f'n deal. seriously just measure out 3 and 6 inches on your desk and think about it. if you really want to put people back, the the line should be 12 inches from each end of the table. then you'll have a 10ft table... everyone happy now?