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    Posted: Jun 25th 2008, 09:16 am
    Post subject: Shooting line at the WSOBP?

  • dr. ironrute
    I concur with my partner and the guy I slap across the face a lot during tournaments.
     
    Setting a line makes ZERO difference.  If I stand 8 feet with a longer reach than you, sure I have an advantage, but I'd have the same advantage at 9, 10, or 12 feet.  If I had to compare a pong shot to anything it's like playing darts.  Last I checked, dart guys have a line (in our case, even with the table) and they all lean forward fron the line, their arm crosses it.  This has been going on for over 100 years of dart playing.  Nobody's demanded an elbow rule for people with short arms.
     
    Spud Webb did not get stilts when he played in the NBA.  People who were taller than he was had an advantage over him.  This is life.  Some people have an advantage in every sport or game ever created.  If we want, we can just run this like some fucking 8 year old soccer league where everyone gets a trophy and we don't keep score.  
     
    In case you were wondering, I hate people who bitch about rules like this saying it's not fair that I'm taller than them.  Shut up and shoot, or don't come.

    The line is all about how hard you want to make the game... there other factors then the line such as how many reracks and other things
     
    Having a line would actually give you more of advantage against someone who is not as good... that's common sense
     
    but Im fine with how it is now... doesn't mean I like that way but its the easiest and less bitched about way there is....
     

    my fantasy is to have the elbow rule and have a ref for each table to keep watch
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    Posted: Jun 27th 2008, 08:41 pm
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  • Personally, I'd rather have the time and money that would have to put toward having refs at every single table to go to prizes and making the event bigger and better...
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    Posted: Jun 27th 2008, 08:45 pm
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  • ok...i have been playing beer pong for almost 4 years now and in my area(TN, nashville area) i have realized that every single place i have gone has a different set of house rules...most the same, but with a few differences here and there...ive played with a bunch of ppl in panama during spring break and each place i went i had to get them to give me a quick run-over of THEIR rules...because they were from all over...so needless to say what im getting at here is this...
     
    WSOBP and WPT are two completely different leagues and play in different areas...so different rules will apply...if youre a good pong player then you will learn to adapt to the many rules and play your best no matter what...
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    Posted: Jun 27th 2008, 08:56 pm
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  • Every player should have the option to lean if they want to, there is no inherent advantage/disadvantage there, it's the player's choice to do so or not to do so.  If there were a shooting line, it would be EXACTLY THE SAME, but adding the opportunity for complaining/bitching about whose toe was over, whose was not, so on and so forth...
     

    As for other rules, I think the general rule of thumb for official beer pong rules in a championship setting, is that the entire game is based on shooting balls into cups, and the rules should reflect that basic skill of the game...  No rules should be made to support not having to make the ball into the cup (sniper rules, same cup rules, extra cups being awarded for asinine random things that don't realistically take much skill in the first place, etc...)
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    Posted: Jun 28th 2008, 05:11 am
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  • hell no there should not be a shooting line the table is already 8ft long there is no point in on it should be a judge call because there are some players out there with a 7ft reach but in all honesty there should not be one it might mess up the way people shoot because they might be worried about passing over the line so my vote is NO!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Posted: Jun 28th 2008, 05:18 am
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  • Croch to table is a joke, end of story
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    Posted: Jun 28th 2008, 10:18 pm
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  • I've beaten the same people with the elbow rule, without the elbow rule...
     

    they suck whether they're leaning or not, they're just looking for an excuse because they're babies...
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    Posted: Jun 29th 2008, 11:40 am
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  • best.of.buffalo

     
    Bottom Line:
     
    Everyone is bringing up leaning, and that is not what we're debating.  We're debating shot distance.  The only reason why leaning comes into the conversation is because your 'lean advantage' is directly related to how long the shot distance is.
     
    One thing I do have is an interest in settling on some sort of universal standard rule set.  This would be better for tournament organizers and for people participating because you'll walk into a tournament knowing exactly what to expect.  Being that the WSOBP is the largest tournament in the world, and being that WPT has had almost 1,500 teams participating in tournaments in just the past 4 months, I think we both have a mutual interest (because of our 'reach') to come to some sort of universal (if not, very similar) rule set.
     
    I feel pretty strongly that the shot distance should be as close to 9' as possible because that's where the game started.  Right now WPT shoots at 8.5' so a change to 9' would require us to extend our shot distance as well.
     
    Are you guys really just going to shit all over extending shot distance or is anybody open to the idea?
     
    -Peter
    http://www.worldpongtour.com

    I agree with you that the shot needs to be at nine... and we all know that you keep sayin 8.5 cuz of your table length... instead of discussing it on here make  your table nine or make your line a foot and a half back. Beer pong needs to be back to its roots.
     
    Competition will make this sport explode and better
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    Posted: Jul 16th 2008, 10:48 pm
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  • I just recently came across bpong.com and the forums, and I stumbled across this little thread. I can see the pros and cons of both points, but in my personal opinion I believe that it should be left alone, no shooting lines. Me and my buddies play to where your elbow can never cross the edge of the table, but thats just our rules. If you really feel that leaning that far, or having your elbow over the edge of the table is that big of an advantage for other teams, well too bad.  Not only that but even if a line was implemnted it still wouldnt keep people from leaning. It was also mentioned its damn near impossible to actually impose a no elbow over the table rule.
     
    If you think its that bad, then why not hone your skills some and beat the guys that are leaning by not. To me it seems that simple.  I prefer not to cross the edge of the table, but thats just what feels comfortable to me. I say leave the rules as they are and just pratice. Im sure there are teams that are just as good if not better than the guys that lean and vice versa. So stick with it and just play the game, its all for fun and to get a little drunk. I think we can all agree on that... well that and maybe $50,000, so to each his own.
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