Beer Pong Forums: WSOBP V

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juzam139 Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 29 Total Games: 92 W/L %: 67.39 Avg CD: 1.25 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 06:47 pm Post subject: WSOBP V I don't think the first 2 days could be ran any other way than what they have it set up as now. I think for liability reasons is the biggest thing. Because whether or not you drink the beer, it is only one beer per hour if you do drink. Not to mention that switching tables and getting everyone to their table could get pretty hectic if you have 3 games in a row. Not to mention the hour gives the staff time to wipe the tables/set them up for next game. I know ideally for beerpong, people play better with less time in between games. I's easier to stay hot and keep the buzz going. But for a tournament of this size, I think the hour in between games makes things easier in the end to keep track of everything. I mean there are practice tables set up so you could play a quick game right before your round starts or in your room if you got a table so you aren't that cold. I agree that it does pretty much eat up your entire day, but like someone mentioned, you are out there to play beerpong. If you want to do extra-curricular activities, stay an extra day or two. As far as the third day, I would have liked to have played a best of three series both those play-in rounds to get to the 64 team tourney. This way if you lose that first game, you should be warmed up for the next game. If you lose both games, well the better team should have won, not necessarily the hotter team. I know this might add an extra 30 or so minutes in the beginning of the day, but as I recall, the last 8 teams left in the tourney took about 2 hours to complete those rounds (and I know it's for a good reason because you want to showcase the last remaining teams as much as possible), but we have a whole year to state our case for any kind of changes. Last edited on Jan 6th 2009, 06:50 pm
bustany2 Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 28 Total Games: 93 W/L %: 67.74 Avg CD: 1.55 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 08:40 pm Post subject: WSOBP V I agree that there should be some sort of small break before the final 64 team tournament begins. During this break, the teams that won the play in games should be re-seeded before entering the final 64 team bracket. The point of qualifing 1st is that you earned the right to play the worst team remaining in the tournament. For example the way the tournament is set up the 20th ranked team could possibly draw a lower seeded team then the 1st ranked team does. Thoughts?
prusch Joined: 08.22.2006 Age: 30 Total Games: 145 W/L %: 77.24 Avg CD: 1.70 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 09:35 pm Post subject: WSOBP V The reseeding point is interesting. I don't know if it's as important as the break though. All the rankings are so arbitrarily based in the first place. Would anyone want to be seeded 32 and playing a 33 seed Smashing Time? How about a #1 seed that is then scheduled to play them in Round 2? I'd just want to make sure they aren't completely warmed up before playing them cold.
Mike-Wan Joined: 09.28.2006 Age: 26 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 09:35 pm Post subject: WSOBP V I think final 32 should be call your cup cause I'm tired of teams knocking people out cause they hit lucky ass cups in the back row and third row. Top 32 should be able to do it anyways and if not then you have no reason being there.
cobra Joined: 09.25.2006 Age: 28 Total Games: 81 W/L %: 61.73 Avg CD: 1.31 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 10:06 pm Post subject: WSOBP V "head I think final 32 should be call your cup cause I'm tired of teams knocking people out cause they hit lucky ass cups in the back row and third row. Top 32 should be able to do it anyways and if not then you have no reason being there. Should a catch not count if it tips off someones hand? Should a basket not count if it hits the top of the backboard. Should brooklyns make you bowl again in bowling? Should the river not count if your opponent has one out to catch? There's a luck factor in every game, every sport. Deal with it. Plus, not everyone aims for cups in the same order you might
Mike-Wan Joined: 09.28.2006 Age: 26 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 10:11 pm Post subject: WSOBP V Well I guess I know what type of player you are.... A Lucky One
cobra Joined: 09.25.2006 Age: 28 Total Games: 81 W/L %: 61.73 Avg CD: 1.31 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 10:17 pm Post subject: WSOBP V "head Well I guess I know what type of player you are.... A Lucky One Good arguement
skinny Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 31 Total Games: 1 W/L %: 100 Avg CD: 1.00 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 11:27 pm Post subject: WSOBP V "solbycolby" I happened to notice that it seemed all the girl guy or girl girl teams were mostly in the group that played in round 1, 4, 7 yada yada.... my team was in the rounds 2, 5, 8 etc... and it was some stiff competition (literally penis joke) all around. Maybe it was just coincidence that the groups were set that way, but I have a feeling it wasnt truly random picking. So if it wasn't then I think randomly selected teams all around would be great. The seeding of the tournament is completely random. Ok, we're using a computer's random generator, so it's only as random as a computer generated random string can be, but it's random. Any patterns you will notice with regards to who's playing who are complete coincidences. You guys may have noticed that the choice of teams that played on the feature table was not random, but we did not engineer any of the game selections - only which games appeared on the feature table (i.e., we seed the tournament randomly, and then swapped games into and out of the feature table).
skinny Joined: 01.01.1991 Age: 31 Total Games: 1 W/L %: 100 Avg CD: 1.00 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 11:34 pm Post subject: WSOBP V "domino66" Thanks for a very well-run tourney this year guys. A suggestion for improving the format for next year (which was echoed by nearly everyone we talked to). For Days 1 and 2, it was really annoying to have 6 separate games, with roughly 50-60 minutes between them. It was never quite enough time to actually do anything - i.e. sit down and enjoy a leisurely meal, gamble, go back to your room and watch football, etc. The net effect was that 6 games ended up consuming an entire day from 11am to 6pm or later. Why couldn't you have all teams have two "sessions" on each of Days 1 and 2, and play 3 consecutive games in each session? i.e. this year, there were 3 "heats" with teams in each heat playing every hour or so...but why don't you have all of the teams in the first "heat" be on the tables from 11am until 12:30pm, for example, getting in 3 consecutive games. Then perhaps they could come back for an afternoon session of another 3 games around 3pm to 4:30pm. I don't know if there are other considerations that went into this year's format (e.g. liability-wise, you couldn't have teams play consecutive games, or maybe the Flamingo WANTED the format structured so that players would have to walk back through the casino 6 times / day, but nearly everyone we talked to agreed that it was annoying to have such a drawn-out format that required all teams to report back to the playing room every hour or so. Other people have given some answers to this, but here are my quick thoughts: 1. Yes, for liability reasons, we set the tournament up so that each team will drink one beer in competition every hour. If they choose to drink more than that, it is their choice 2. One of the things that makes the WSOBP such an incredible event is the feeling of having 800 people (well, it'll be a lot more in the future) in a room for Beer Pong. If we were to structure it the way you have suggested, you would have a lot of teams that only show up for their games, and then leave for the day. With the way things are, there is a big incentive to hang around and watch other teams play, which creates a great atmosphere. 3. From a philosophical standpoint, I think that spreading out the games takes a little away from the streak factor in prelims - If you have a bad game, you can take some downtime to recoup, and turn things around. I guess I have a whole bunch of other thoughts on this, but I think that most people that come to the WSOBP understand and actually like this format. Unless there is widespread disagreement with it, I don't forsee us really straying away from it.
Mike-Wan Joined: 09.28.2006 Age: 26 Total Games: 0 W/L %: 0 Avg CD: 0 Full Stats	Posted: Jan 6th 2009, 11:37 pm Post subject: WSOBP V "cobra" "head Well I guess I know what type of player you are.... A Lucky One Good arguement Well of course there is luck in the game. It's the top 32 to so lets try to make it a harder game to play and reduce the chance of lucky shots. Only luck there should be is if it goes of a random cup or side cup and goes into the cup you called. And I know people dont go in order but some of these teams it's just obvious when they hit a cup they dont want. I just think it would be fun to watch with people calling out ther shots. I mean it"s the top 32 I"m prettty sure they call they"re cups and hit them most the time.